Party Poker September 15 0:00 EDT BOYCOTT New Rake System.

    • MaxSMirn
      MaxSMirn
      Black
      Lid sinds: 24.11.2008 Posts: 3,294
      Hi, All.
      Regular players from Russia will planning new action against PartyPoker new Rake system.

      Information: PartyPoker has changed rake system in cash games from Dealt to Weighted Contributed at 25 August 2011. This will result in slower PartyPoints earning rate about 30%! Now it is much harder to clear a bonus, to reach any status and almost impossible to obtain Palladium Elite status.

      From September 15, at 0:00EDT (UTC-4) we planning any tables sitout. We planning write to PartyPoker about decrease speed of earning party points (about 30% decrease) and about return old rake system.

      WE want return DEALT rake system!!!!

      UPDATE: At September 14, we planning write many letters to PartyPoker support. Our requirement - return DEALT Rake system. Please, write letters to support with this requirement at September 14 (mailto: info@partypoker.com).

      Please, support us at September 15.
      Please, inform everybody about it.

      Sincerely yours,
      Russian PokerStrategy community.
      Original topic http://ru.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread...687#post5556687
      Other topic http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=1373431
  • 17 antwoorden
    • FailOMatic
      FailOMatic
      Totaal
      Lid sinds: 19.12.2010 Posts: 290
      Ik doe hier aan mee :D Het ging al zo langzaam met punten en nu al helemaal.
    • djpj1111
      djpj1111
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 28.08.2011 Posts: 809
      Goed plan, meer punten krijgen is altijd goed :D

      En, wat was het oude systeem dan? Op de laagste limieten is het nu toch 1 cent voor een pot van 20 cent, en dat je individuele rake wordt berekend door alle rake van de tafel bij elkaar op te tellen, gedeeld door aantal spelers?

      Kan iemand het uitleggen :P
    • Nivlem
      Nivlem
      Silver
      Lid sinds: 28.05.2008 Posts: 4,862
      Hangt van je speelstijl af though..

      Als je erg tight speelt is wheighted contributed rake inderdaad lager dan je dealt rake. Wanneer je echter een gemiddelde of lossere speelstijl hebt, zal je wheigted contributed rake hoger liggen dan je dealt rake.

      Vind het persoonlijk juist wel een fair systeem waar de mensen die daadwerkelijk meer rake betalen ook meer punten verdienen dan de mensen die minder rake betalen.

      Er blijven net zo veel party points uitgedeeld worden als voorheen. Ze worden echter eerlijker verdeeld.
    • DukeFreedom
      DukeFreedom
      Black
      Lid sinds: 07.04.2008 Posts: 3,511
      Hangt maar een klein beetje van speelstijl af. Volgens mij gaan zelfs LAGs maar amper meer punten verdienen met het contributed systeem.

      Het punt is namelijk dat vooral vissen die extreem loose spelen meer punten gaan verzamelen. Daarmee is het dus ook niet waar dat je met gemiddeld spel evenveel punten blijft behalen, maar minder dus.

      Vissen hebben daarnaast nooit een hoge status, dus eigenlijk voeren de pokersites dit alleen maar in om totaal minder rakeback te betalen en daarnaast een deel van de rakeback van winstgevende spelers naar vissen te verplaatsen. Als ik PokerStrategy's ideeen over de pokermarkt goed begrijp, zouden jullie op dat laatste punt ook tegen moeten zijn.

      Als je het over een eerlijk systeem hebt, dan is het enige eerlijke systeem om alle punten te geven aan degene die ook daadwerkelijk de rake betaalt in een hand. De rest krijgt dan niets. Dit maakt het binnenhalen van punten wel afhankelijker van je geluk.

      Ik blijf hier dan ook enorm op tegen en overweeg zeker om naar PokerStars te gaan, zodra m'n bonussen klaar zijn. Is voor mij gewoon erg negatief, zeker gezien PartyPoker sowieso al vrij hoge FL-rake heeft tov PokerStars.
    • yasminn
      yasminn
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 16.06.2011 Posts: 253
      alle russen zijn toch LAG dus dit is voor hun toch juist profitabel :D
    • 18ofaugust
      18ofaugust
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 04.04.2010 Posts: 860
      please speak in english, so the international conversation may take place
    • Twisted1984
      Twisted1984
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 12.04.2007 Posts: 3,258
      LOL fuck the nits, the new system is way better. Why should the nits take advantage of the rake I pay in the hands while I play double the hands they do? Ridiculous initiative.

      Weighted contributed rake is way way fairer.
    • Knien12
      Knien12
      Silver
      Lid sinds: 12.07.2008 Posts: 2,437
      lol @ Twisted
    • xfAntrY
      xfAntrY
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 25.12.2007 Posts: 98
      similar themes were created in English, German, Spanish, etc... communities ps, and a few other forums/web sites:
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    • djpj1111
      djpj1111
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 28.08.2011 Posts: 809
      En wat moet ik nu doen? Ik speel BSS 0.01/0.02 tight-agressive tot nu toe wat is het beste voor mij? :D
    • TheErwin
      TheErwin
      Silver
      Lid sinds: 20.12.2010 Posts: 2,462
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Twisted1984
      LOL fuck the nits, the new system is way better. Why should the nits take advantage of the rake I pay in the hands while I play double the hands they do? Ridiculous initiative.

      Weighted contributed rake is way way fairer.
      +1
    • Chivaz1
      Chivaz1
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 28.05.2009 Posts: 4,126
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door TheErwin
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Twisted1984
      LOL fuck the nits, the new system is way better. Why should the nits take advantage of the rake I pay in the hands while I play double the hands they do? Ridiculous initiative.

      Weighted contributed rake is way way fairer.
      +1
      +2
    • HuKuTKa777
      HuKuTKa777
      Black
      Lid sinds: 09.04.2008 Posts: 2,940
      Final stage of boycott

      Thank u guys for supporting boycott!

      We have perfectly worked this Thursday, but on Friday because of bad coordination in time, the action has passed less successfully. However, even on the one-day action management of PatyPoker has quickly reacted, having showered participants of the action with bonuses. It shows that they are afraid of players anger and loss of the most important segment of their online regulars which work hard on rake plantations of PatyPoker.
      But they will not bring down us from a right way with some stupid bonuses, with which bosses of PatyPoker are trying to lure us! Our requirements remain invariable - to return old system of rake (Dealt) or to reduce cost of statuses and bonuses approximately by 30 % which we have lost because of transition to new system, and also that they apologize for the decision on change of system was accepted without the prevention and in the middle of the quarter because of what reception of the status and bonuses for many players became the extremely inconvenient !

      For acknowledgement of gravity of our intentions we will carry out a final stage of our boycott. All to a clod the devil-may-care attitude to players of bosses of PatyPoker isn't indifferent, and also with all with that who doesn't agree with new rake system (which has concerned all of us and has lowered even loose players PP on 10 %), we urge to come and make the protest this Saturday and Sunday.
      Thus for bigger efficiency and mass character of the protest, we urge you to sit down tables in a sit-out from 18.00 on MOSCOW TIME ( 10.00 EDT ) and till 3.00-4.00 ( 18.00-19.00 EDT ) on SATURDAY and SUNDAY

      Occupy the maximum quantity of tables! Occupy turns in waitlist on the maximum quantity of tables of any limit (for this purpose it is not necessary to have big bankroll, and also it is possible to occupy turn, even sitting on 18 tables) and wait untill 120 seconds will passed.
      Don't sit down a table if on it 5 players in a sit-out already sit!
      Search for tables with active game and sit there!
      Don't start new tables!

      IMPORTANT! All participants of a final stage of boycott send the letter of the following maintenance:

      I welcome employees of support of PatyPoker. I wanted, that you have informed your management with the message from the majority of players of PatyPoker, and also from me personally for I support the sounded positions and I gather together with other players, to leave PatyPoker if your management doesn't listen to us in the near future:

      "We regretfully inform management of PatyPoker that if it won't react to requirements of simple players and won't pay attention to our boycott which will be repeated this Saturday and Sunday we will be compelled to leave PatyPoker shortly. We remind that we sharply protest against new system of addition of points and we demand to return old rake system (Dealt) or to reduce cost of bonuses in shop, and also statuses approximately by 30 %, also we demand guarantees of that any similar changes in the future will be carried out with the timely prevention of players, instead of to occur in the middle of the quarter, destroying plans of many players for reception of statuses and bonuses. We want, that management PartyPoker has commented on a current situation, instead of writing sample letters as it only shows unwillingness to cooperate and make a compromise with players.

      Yours faithfully, community of players of PatiPokera, and also personally ( your name)"

      Send similar letters even if you yet haven't solved, whether will leave PatyPoker or not. Bosses of PatyPoker should understand all gravity of our intentions, and also that consequence in what can result their actions on changing of rake system behind backs of players.

      Support the action! Today the corporation without warning are changing rake system , tomorrow their support don't answer week, the day after tomorrow your money are frozen on accounts and we become hostages of one more FTP!

      P.S. U can find original message here - http://ru.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=503704&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=26
    • noisecore
      noisecore
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 12.04.2010 Posts: 5,221
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Chivaz1
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door TheErwin
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Twisted1984
      LOL fuck the nits, the new system is way better. Why should the nits take advantage of the rake I pay in the hands while I play double the hands they do? Ridiculous initiative.

      Weighted contributed rake is way way fairer.
      +1
      +2
      +3333333333333
    • noisecore
      noisecore
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 12.04.2010 Posts: 5,221
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Chivaz1
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door TheErwin
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door Twisted1984
      LOL fuck the nits, the new system is way better. Why should the nits take advantage of the rake I pay in the hands while I play double the hands they do? Ridiculous initiative.

      Weighted contributed rake is way way fairer.
      +1
      +2
      +3333333333333
    • mvd1978
      mvd1978
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 09.01.2011 Posts: 2,012
      Als je Partypoker al niet veel wilt schrijven en dus Copy Paste doet, zorg dan in ieder geval dat er Partypoker staat... :f_eek:
    • yasminn
      yasminn
      Bronze
      Lid sinds: 16.06.2011 Posts: 253
      Oorspronkelijk gepost door mvd1978
      Als je Partypoker al niet veel wilt schrijven en dus Copy Paste doet, zorg dan in ieder geval dat er Partypoker staat... :f_eek:
      Scherp :D